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cjl
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Which pmr system is best value? I'm assuming not all systems are the same (i.e. some might not output the full 500mW).

Do they all take around a second to detect the ctcss tone? My wife can't get use to pressing the ptt button and waiting before talking...

I would like (in order of interest):
- ctcss (+off)
- good range (sensitivity, max power output)
- signal meter
- roger beep
- out of range alarm
- "encryption/encoding"

What I don't need:
- panic alarm
- led torch
- fm radio
Dean



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

My 2 cents (and from my own experience and that of other people I know):-

Telcom TE-150 (or various other badged versions of the same thing)
Motorola T6222

Not sure about the CTCSS delay - every radio I've played with has suffered that problem, but I'm interested to hear about other peoples experiences on that too. TJ - does the TE-150 have that delay? Neil, what about the Motorola?

Both of the above will do CTCSS "off" by setting it to "00".

hth,

D
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've tried lots of my local shops and hardly any had pmr systems, and none had the t6222.

Any ideas where I can get these in the high street? [I'm close to slough]
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 11:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

for info, waters and stanton (www.wsplc.com) sell the motorola t6222 that you are after - they do mail order too 69.99 to you icon_smile.gif Argos sell a motorola T5522 twin pack for 99.99 (which doesnt sound like bad VFM to me, so long as you know someone esle that wants the other one)

HTH
Kev, G7 OKV
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:12 am Reply with quote Back to top

The comstore <www.thecomstore.com> sells the T6222 for 50.21 ex VAT
(59.00 incl VAT) with free delivery!

I've never brought from them so I don't know if they are any good.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

Why is there such a huge difference between shops? [maybe the lower ones are lieing? or the higher ones ripping people off?]

There is a 13.99 difference between "thecomstore" (59) and "waters and stanton" (72.99 [inc 3 del])!!

I've seen some stores selling the t6222 for even more!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

The highstreet is getting more and more disappointing!

These days I do more research online before buying a product, but when I decide the exact model I want I can't find it at all on the highstreet. Instead I end up buying online! I think there is huge growth to be seen in online sales!
Neil_L12



Joined: 21 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Motorola T6222, is a very nice radio.

I would recommend it to anyone.

The great things about it are:

Nice solid construction, Great range, Vibra alert, signal strength meter, drop in charger and many more.

Things you might have a problem with:

Accessory socket is not a standard size but Motorola have some nice accessories, PTT button is on the front.

I got some photos coming soon, including a way to make 'normal' accessories fit. it does require a slight modification though nothing serious.

Neil.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I ordered two T6222 from thecomstore.com they sent it next day delivery for free! I recommend these guys.

I sent back the binatone MR700's using the argos 15 day return policy! [I could have sent them back as they were being missold as working upto 5km, but the manual said only 3km]

I've had my T6222 scanning all day and I haven't heard a lot - in fact I heard more with the MR700's!! Maybe they are able to work with a wider area!
sammons



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 6:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Talkeasy TE-150, available from Currys for 29.94 a pair. Comes with VOX headsets included. Superb value, and the radios work well for me. The antenna could be broken off if you try, but they seem to work well enough with the antenna folded away. I recommend them as excellent value for money.
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GrahamG



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

sammons wrote:
Talkeasy TE-150, available from Currys for 29.94 a pair. Comes with VOX headsets included. Superb value, and the radios work well for me. The antenna could be broken off if you try, but they seem to work well enough with the antenna folded away. I recommend them as excellent value for money.


Just to be sure, are these the same sets referred to as the Telcom TE150 in other messages?

-GrahamG
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Dean



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, the "TE" in the "TE-150" stands for "TalkEasy" - radio made by Telcom.

Official title is "Telcom TE-150" or "Telcom Talk Easy 150".

Also available branded by different manufacturers. Have a look around on the other forums and when you see "TE150 variant" or "TE150 clone" they're the same thing.

Great little radio, easily modded to 70cms band too. And at 30 a pair you can't go far wrong.

They work very well as gateways, but recommend not running them at more than 5 volts as they tend to over-deviate and the CTCSS tones get thrown off a few hz (enough to cause problems).

Dean
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 11:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dean wrote:
Yes, the "TE" in the "TE-150" stands for "TalkEasy" - radio made by Telcom.

Official title is "Telcom TE-150" or "Telcom Talk Easy 150".

Also available branded by different manufacturers. Have a look around on the other forums and when you see "TE150 variant" or "TE150 clone" they're the same thing.

Great little radio, easily modded to 70cms band too. And at 30 a pair you can't go far wrong.

They work very well as gateways, but recommend not running them at more than 5 volts as they tend to over-deviate and the CTCSS tones get thrown off a few hz (enough to cause problems).

Dean


Thanks for confirming that, plus the additional info. Funnily enough I heard amateurs discussing the TE150's 70cms capabilities on their (OK, our) EQSO gateway network and they were getting quite excited about it all but I'm not sure they realised that the mode they were talking about was LPD (low power device) rather than amateur specific and that the sets are therefore not likely to have amateur refinements like split frequency working, which rules out their use with repeaters (although they are so cheap, I suppose you could use two, one for the input and one for the output!)

How kidproof are the TE150s? I'm looking for a pair of 446s that I can give to my YL's kids so we can track them when we let them off their leads and they disappear over the horizon. My T6222s are far too expensive, my Binatone RA100s would be perfect except for their being so deaf. I wish the TE150's aerial was a solid, moulded affair instead of a swing-down as it seems bound to get wrenched off. Is it as delicate as it looks?

Oh, you mentioned that there are physical variants - which is the least toy looking/most professional looking of these? (how about an ID parade of the variants to go with a review?)

-GrahamG
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 12:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

Neil_L12 wrote:
The Motorola T6222, is a very nice radio.

I would recommend it to anyone.

The great things about it are:

Nice solid construction, Great range, Vibra alert, signal strength meter, drop in charger and many more.

Things you might have a problem with:

Accessory socket is not a standard size but Motorola have some nice accessories, PTT button is on the front.

I got some photos coming soon, including a way to make 'normal' accessories fit. it does require a slight modification though nothing serious.

Neil.


I see so many favourable comments about the T6222 that I feel I have to jump in here and just point out a couple of things that fit into the 'things I wish I had heard before I bought them' category, for the benefit of anyone who may have been dazzled into thinking they are just totally fabulous. They nearly are, but...

Although they work extremely well electronically (which is the most important thing) their physical quality is spoilt by four problems.

The first is the ultra lightweight battery cover and catch - the action of the catch is so light that the slightest pressure on the button can spring it loose - if you were walking along over grass and this happened you would not even know you had lost it, because the batteries themselves are a good wedge fit and the cover is so thin and light it wouldn't make any sound as it fell.

The second is that the buttons are both incredibly thick and inflexible and unecessarily small, making them feel genuinely unpleasant in use.

The third is that the belt clip is a fairly flimsy, mechanically complicated affair which is designed to stay on your belt - you pop the radio onto it and off it at need. It would have been better served by having the traditional simple, super tough one-piece moulded plastic or springy metal belt clip permanently attached to the radio.

The forth is that the set is a fairly uncomfortable shape, quite narrow, bulbous and fat from front to back so it feels like you're holding a small pear. Oh, and it is quite difficult to stand one up vertically. Think of the radio equivalent of a Weeble, although unfortunately, these ones DO fall down. Standing one up is almost as difficult as standing a coin on edge.

Although it does have a signal meter as described above you have to press and hold a button to see a numeric signal reading, unlike some of the other sets which have a more traditional (and sensible) bargraph S-meter which is always 'on' in the receive mode.

Despite all this, the radio is worth having for its features and performance as a radio.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 9:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

The TE150 is actually a Tsuen Shing WT-405 with the Telcom name on it. Others known, according to the Euro446 website, are the FlyCom FlyTalk Twin, Team DualTalk, DNT WT77. See http://www.geocities.com/euro446/indexp.html and click on the EXTERNAL PIC links to see them. Note how the TW-401 is the TE200 variant with the FM radio, there are even more instances of that one.

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